Hi Stata experts.
I have tried searching for solutions to my question on the forum, but I cannot find something that applies to my situation (to my limited understanding). I have a dataset consisting of two groups with measurements at four timepoints. The outcome is continuous, and the (sample) data and model is the following:
muscle time group force200hz
1 2 1 955.71009
1 3 1 959.32508
1 4 1 965.15919
2 2 1 950.00694
2 3 1 953.19907
2 4 1 937.6988
3 2 1 1084.5172
3 3 1 1081.1268
3 4 1 1070.8881
Code:
mixed force200hz time#group || muscle:, nobase nocons residual(un, t(time)) reml dfmethod(kroger)
Now, by chance the two groups have a markedly different baseline (timepoint 1) level of the outcome variable, and I'm concerned that this disturbs my analyses and interpretability of the results. Namely, this makes it hard to compare the groups directly at each timepoint (e.g. using pwcompare), or to simply compare the change from baseline (e.g. using lincom). In fact, differences in changes over time between the groups may be as small as 0.2 % and still get detected as significant. I suspect that this is because of the greater absolute decreases in the group with the greater baseline level. From other posts on this forum, I read that I might want to include the baseline level as a covariate, deleting timepoint 1 from the outcome variable, and creating a new column for the baseline level:
muscle time group force200hz baseline200hz
1 2 1 955.71009 992.21542
1 3 1 959.32508 992.21542
1 4 1 965.15919 992.21542
2 2 1 950.00694 997.53312
2 3 1 953.19907 997.53312
2 4 1 937.6988 997.53312
3 2 1 1084.5172 1111.1094
3 3 1 1081.1268 1111.1094
3 4 1 1070.8881 1111.1094
Code:
mixed force200hz time#group baseline200hz || muscle:, nobase nocons residual(un, t(time)) reml dfmethod(kroger)
This approach still finds some of the same clinically non-relevant differences in change over time of 0.2-0.4 % significant in a quite small dataset (n=6 in both groups), which I have a hard time accepting and explaining. For reference, I am usually looking at differences between 10-100 % in these types of analyses.
Am I on a goose chase, or is there another way to account for the differences at baseline? Should I simply accept these observed differences?
I have tried searching for solutions to my question on the forum, but I cannot find something that applies to my situation (to my limited understanding). I have a dataset consisting of two groups with measurements at four timepoints. The outcome is continuous, and the (sample) data and model is the following:
muscle time group force200hz
1 2 1 955.71009
1 3 1 959.32508
1 4 1 965.15919
2 2 1 950.00694
2 3 1 953.19907
2 4 1 937.6988
3 2 1 1084.5172
3 3 1 1081.1268
3 4 1 1070.8881
Code:
mixed force200hz time#group || muscle:, nobase nocons residual(un, t(time)) reml dfmethod(kroger)
Now, by chance the two groups have a markedly different baseline (timepoint 1) level of the outcome variable, and I'm concerned that this disturbs my analyses and interpretability of the results. Namely, this makes it hard to compare the groups directly at each timepoint (e.g. using pwcompare), or to simply compare the change from baseline (e.g. using lincom). In fact, differences in changes over time between the groups may be as small as 0.2 % and still get detected as significant. I suspect that this is because of the greater absolute decreases in the group with the greater baseline level. From other posts on this forum, I read that I might want to include the baseline level as a covariate, deleting timepoint 1 from the outcome variable, and creating a new column for the baseline level:
muscle time group force200hz baseline200hz
1 2 1 955.71009 992.21542
1 3 1 959.32508 992.21542
1 4 1 965.15919 992.21542
2 2 1 950.00694 997.53312
2 3 1 953.19907 997.53312
2 4 1 937.6988 997.53312
3 2 1 1084.5172 1111.1094
3 3 1 1081.1268 1111.1094
3 4 1 1070.8881 1111.1094
Code:
mixed force200hz time#group baseline200hz || muscle:, nobase nocons residual(un, t(time)) reml dfmethod(kroger)
This approach still finds some of the same clinically non-relevant differences in change over time of 0.2-0.4 % significant in a quite small dataset (n=6 in both groups), which I have a hard time accepting and explaining. For reference, I am usually looking at differences between 10-100 % in these types of analyses.
Am I on a goose chase, or is there another way to account for the differences at baseline? Should I simply accept these observed differences?
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